odditycollector

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shinjishazaki asked: Working on it, thanks. Maybe you should just stop using the word "lies" when it was a mistake and "lies" is pissing off the person you're speaking with.

Maybe!

On the other hand, if I was someone extremely concerned with having other people perceive me as 100% non disingenuous, to the point that someone using the “l-word” to explain that they weren’t calling me an “l-word”-er, and instead were using the word differently, becomes an maddening insult…

I would make sure that the person I was speaking to was actually accusing me of, eg,

[saying] “that I lured you and everyone else into a trap.” (Or any of the other implied accusations you respond to in that post.)

before ranting about them doing that.

………….… … .  .   .    .     .

Okay, I was going to leave it there - get in some mild, passive aggressive snideness at your so well meaning word usage “advice” and go to bed feeling clever, but here is the thing.

I don’t know you or your story.

But in my personal experience, the venn intersection between the most untrustworthy toxic motherfuckers it has been my displeasure to know, and the people most likely to become mindlessly furious if there is a whisper of doubt in the vicinity of their identity badge of pristine honesty?

Perfect fucking circle

I’m still not saying you fit that rule, because again, I don’t know you.

But I notice that in response to my post - not aimed at you personally, linking and acknowledging your side of the story, and yet bemoaning the spread of “accidental lies” across tumblr - you have become extremely angry and extended my comment into some… weird places.

So if you had no intention to correct me, then why did you make that post?

Oh, right, to say that I lured you and everyone else into a trap.  Just bring up the fact that I acknowledge that I fucked up the filter, cast it aside, and still make me out to be an asshole for making a mistake.  Gotta make sure I’m questioned until the cows come home, even though I made a mistake and you acknowledge that and the fact that I can no longer control this piece of shit post.  Gotta be the white knight for all the fandom over a mistake in filtering and a screenshot I posted in the genuine hope of making people happy.

Wow.  Thanks.

Which apparently counts as honest as long as you don’t use the “L-word” itself.

Maybe being too glib with terminology was an asshole move on my part. But as you say, you have a “deep and seething hatred for being called a liar”. And I have a long-standing and well-earned distrust of people who put too much emphasis on that particular.

Our respective issues were never going to let us have a productive conversation, and knowing that saves us both so much time.

oh no there is a post that has a mistake in it that actually is of no consequence to anything, better call the OP a liar even after they’ve said it was a mistake, better make the OP out to be an asshole luring people into thinking something that isn’t actually a negative thing, if I would I would purge this entire post from the site, just so I could stop having people being sanctimonious toward me about a mistake I’ve admitted to.

Filed under this is is public because I really wasn't being snide before but now I am and I would rather be rude in public seems fairest Q: when I catch myself spreading misinformation do I glibly call it lies? all the time shinjishazaki

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cyphercat:

scareina:

Everyone, you realize what this means, right?

Caliborn, as Lord English, is just cosplaying his OC.

The OC that he stole, from fanart someone drew.

Fanart that is wearing that coat, because it was seen in the Felt Intermission.

Let that sink in for a moment. Homestuck has actually established a closed paradox loop OUTSIDE OF THE COMIC PROPER.

(via roachpatrol)

Filed under OH MY GOD? homestuck just never stop

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wow

shinjishazaki:

odditycollector:

shinjishazaki:

odditycollector:

shinjishazaki:

[snip for length]

Did I present it that way?  Did I ever present it as “No one in Korra fandom writes anything except this one cool femslash pairing!” ?

I posted a screenshot that I did not fake.  It was the relationship filters when viewed by the Korra/Asami pairing filter already set.  I did not manipulate it in photoshop or do some trickery to it.  I did not present it as anything other than a “hey, cool, this pairing has a lot of fics and that’s unusual for a ladyship” thing.  I said the count outweighs the other pairings in the show.  I made no judgements aside from “nice, there’s a lot of ladyship fics for once.”

I wasn’t trying to trick anyone.  There was no fucking trap in all of this.  I wasn’t spreading rumors about the creators putting the pairing into the show, I wasn’t mocking other ships by saying “ha ha, this pairing has the most and is therefore better,” and I wasn’t trying to mock anyone for their favored pairings.  I saw high fic numbers for a ladyship and decided to share that.

I have a deep and seething hatred for being called a liar.  The fact that you continue to say that the original post was a lie by snidely crossing it out instead of just not using “lie”—and that you called it a lie when I said in the mea culpa post you so helpfully linked to—means that you don’t want to take that back.

So if you had no intention to correct me, then why did you make that post?

Oh, right, to say that I lured you and everyone else into a trap.  Just bring up the fact that I acknowledge that I fucked up the filter, cast it aside, and still make me out to be an asshole for making a mistake.  Gotta make sure I’m questioned until the cows come home, even though I made a mistake and you acknowledge that and the fact that I can no longer control this piece of shit post.  Gotta be the white knight for all the fandom over a mistake in filtering and a screenshot I posted in the genuine hope of making people happy.

Wow.  Thanks.

We’re having two different conversations.

What (I think) you think I said was:

Dear tumblr user shinjishazaki, you are a liar.

What I think I said was:

Dear people on my Dash who are cheerfully reblogging this post, I know you want to believe the thing is true, but fact check it anyway. Fact check EVERYTHING anyway.

I don’t think you are a liar based on that one post. I *do* think the content of that post is “accidental lies”, or not-truths, or misinformation as you prefer, but who isn’t guilty of that once in a while.

#if I would I would purge this entire post from the site, #just so I could stop having people being sanctimonious toward me about a mistake I’ve admitted to.

do you have xkit? last I heard there’s a notification block option.

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wow

shinjishazaki:

odditycollector:

shinjishazaki:

i have witnessed a miracle on ao3 in the legend of korra section

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the fics for the ladyship vastly outweigh every other ship in the fucking show

This has been on my dash a few times.

I really wanted it to be true, because rarely would a fandom have been so resoundingly correct, so I checked it for myself:

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The op has posted a mea culpa so, fine. Accidental lies. But tumblr posts are still a terrible info source and should be trusted about very little.

Okay, wow, triple plus fuck this entire goddamn post, all right.

From dictionary.com, the definition of a lie is:

a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood

I made a mistake.  I like the pairing.  I wasn’t trying to be an asshole to anyone.  I made a mistake in how I filtered and I got too excited by something that I thought was cool and forgot that you can’t dare to utter something inaccurate within the realm of a popular thing or ship on tumblr.

Fine, correct me.  I did not lie.  I did not accidentally lie.  I wasn’t trying to make anyone feel bad or stupid or gullible.  I made a goddamn mistake, and now I get to have this shit pile of a post come back to me over and over with its notifications and people who are so fucking ready to demonize people who make mistakes because “oh noez a tumblr post is inaccurate they must be lying and cannot be trusted!!!”

Fuck this post, fuck everyone who keeps on calling me a liar for making a fucking mistake when I just saw something I thought people would like and decided to share.  I never said those were the only stories.  I never said anything detrimental about other ships.  I said “wow, these numbers are really unusual because ladyships aren’t as popular, look at that!”

Fuck this post, and I have never regretted making one until now.

It sounds like you’re fed up with more than me personally, but in case it helps/for clarification’s sake, I didn’t mean my response here as an attack on you.

Yes, I used the word “lies,” but I used it glibly in the sense of “untruths being passed around as if they are not untruths”.

My intent was not to correct you - you are aware of the thing - or demonize you - hence linking to your “whoops! my bad, let me explain” post. I get how the mistake could happen! I get that there is no way to make any corrections about anything on this website!

However.

"No one in Korra fandom writes anything except this one cool femslash pairing!" is a thing that makes people in my corner of tumblr happy to believe, and so this post is getting spread around unquestioned.

I get pissed off by tumblr’s habit of spreading lies untruths - intentional or not - as if they are reality, and no one ever ever ever ever checking sources.

People I trust to know better fall into this trap. I’m sure I fall into this trap.

That is the problem, and it’s too bad you’re having to deal with the backlash now that people are finally checking, especially since the way tumblr is set up puts the original post out of your control. (Another problem, and not your fault either.)

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wow

shinjishazaki:

i have witnessed a miracle on ao3 in the legend of korra section

image

the fics for the ladyship vastly outweigh every other ship in the fucking show

This has been on my dash a few times.

I really wanted it to be true, because rarely would a fandom have been so resoundingly correct, so I checked it for myself:

image

The op has posted a mea culpa so, fine. Accidental lies. But tumblr posts are still a terrible info source and should be trusted about very little.

Filed under why is tumblr so much lies is no longer even the right question korra